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Advanced 27: News of a Kidnapping

We recently had the opportunity to talk with Gilberto Torres, who was kidnapped by Colombian paramilitaries and held captive for 42 days several years ago. Gilberto was a Trade Union leader, and was kidnapped for organising strikes and getting in the way of some big business interests. He's taking BP to court in London for events surrounding his kidnapping, and in this podcast he tells his story.

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Rob

Hola a todos y bienvenidos otra vez a Spanish Obsessed y hoy tenemos el gran honor de tener aquí a Gilberto Torres, bienvenidos, bienvenido, (risas) perdón

Hi everyone, welcome again to Spanish Obsessed, today it is our great honour to have as our guest Gilberto Torres, welcome, welcome (laughing), sorry

Gilberto

primero que todo muchas gracias por la invitación es una… es un un motivo de orgullo, de satisfacción el poder estar contribuyendo a todo aquel que me esté escuchando en el día de hoy, pues para mejoren, mejorar su nivel de español

First of all, thank you very much for inviting me, the honour and satisfaction is mine to be able to be here and contribute to the improvement, one way or another, of the knowledge and the level of Spanish of everyone who’s listening today.

Rob

pues sí esa es la idea de todo, bueno Gilberto Torres ha salido bastante en las noticias aquí en Inglaterra ahora bueno, por qué cuéntanos

Well, yes, that’s the idea of it all. Okay, so, to everyone who doesn’t know, Gilberto Torres has been in the news lately here in England, so then tell us a little bit more about that

Gilberto

bueno sí, a ver, primero que todo el hecho de estar de nuevamente estar aquí en el Reino Unido pues es con el motivo, con el fin de poder dar a conocer una de las situaciones que en materia de derechos humanos se vive en Colombia. Gilberto Torres Martínez en el año 2002 el 25 de febrero fue secuestrado y torturado por los grupos paramilitares de la extrema derecha en Colombia, esto por ser dirigente sindical del mayor sindicato petrolero en Colombia la Unión Sindical Obrera USO, y en su momento también pues por defender los derechos humanos, por defender el medio ambiente, por defender los trabajadores y desafortunadamente, pues fui secuestrado porque era que estaba vulnerando los intereses económicos de las empresas multinacionales petroleras en la zona del Casanare en Colombia

Okay, so first of all the fact that I’m here, that I’m back here again, in the United Kingdom, is because I have a motive, I’m here to introduce everyone to a situation concerning a human rights case from Colombia. Gilberto Torrez Martínez was, on February 25th 2002, kidnapped and tortured by extremist military groups of the right wing of Colombia, for being a leader of the biggest oil trade union in Colombia, La Unión Sindical Obrera USO, and at that time, also, for defending human rights, for defending the environment, for defending the workers and unfortunately, well, I was kidnapped because I was a thorn in their side, harming the economic interests of multinational oil companies in the area of Casanare in Colombia

Rob

y bueno y aquí en Inglaterra estás dando una vuelta, para, ¿tienes un caso contra Ocensa o contra BP, o cómo es?

And you’re here in England again, because you have a case against Ocensa or BP, or what?

Gilberto

Bueno sí, efectivamente desde la War on Want hemos sido invitados para poder sensibilizar y dar a conocer un poco más de la situación en torno a lo que tiene que ver con la demanda que se está llevando a cabo aquí en los tribunales de Londres contra la BP que es una de las empresas, que la multinacional Ocensa que opera en Colombia.

Well, yes, effectively, with the War on Want, we were invited to sensitize and raise awareness of the situation that has to do with the lawsuit being led here in the courts in London against the BP, which is a company that is a part of the multinational Ocensa company operating in Colombia.

Rob

Bueno, empezamos entonces desde el principio, en Colombia ¿qué hacías ahí?

Okay well, then, let’s start from the beginning, what did you do back in Colombia?

Gilberto

Bueno yo en Colombia era trabajador de la empresa Colombiana de Petróleos

Well, back in Colombia I was a worker in a Colombian oil company

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Contents

Advanced 4: Sonia la Cubana

In this, our latest advanced Spanish podcast, we meet Sonia, a Cuban who recently moved to England from Spain. As you’ll hear, she’s quite a personality! She tells us all about her culture, country, and experience of moving to London. Prepare yourself, because her Spanish may be quite different to anything you’ve heard before!

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Advanced 5: La Rumba!

We welcome a new invitada to our podcast – thank you very much Stephie! Stephie talks to Rob about “La Rumba”, and how she and her friends celebrate a night out in Bogotá. Stephie lives and studies in London, so she also gives us her opinion on how the London crowd party!

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Advanced 6: Alberto

Meet Alberto, Colombian resident of London for nearly 20 years. Having moved to England to avoid problems back home, Alberto has a fascinating story, and has formed some interesting opinions in his various years in both countries. In this podcast he shares with us some of the things he’s learned over the last few years.

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Advanced 7: Holidays

It’s about time we went on holiday. Although we haven’t been on any holidays for a while, we discuss a few typical Colombian holiday choices – where do you go in a country that already has it all?!

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Advanced 8: Salsa

In Cali, and many other parts of Colombia, people seem to carry Salsa in their blood. Lis is no exception, and here she tells us about how she grew up listening and dancing to Salsa with her sisters in Bogotá. She’s also got some tips for how to get into it if you’re new to Salsa.

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Advanced 9: Paz en Colombia

To many people, Colombia still has a reputation as a dangerous, risky place to visit. Is this still true? Liz and Rob discuss danger in Colombia, and the recent peace negotiations.

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Advanced 10: Hablar Mexicano

Lis talks to Barbara, a friend from Mexico. Barbara tells us some of the most popular Mexican slang (be careful how you use it – parental guidance advised!), as well as talking to us about her beautiful country.

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Advanced 12: Maria de Peru

We have a very special guest in Maria, from Northern Peru. Maria tells Rob and Liz about her experience as an immigrant to the UK, including the difficulties of coming to a country whose language you don’t speak, finding a job, and trying to start a new life!

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Advanced 13: La Política

We talk about the political set up in Colombia. Lis used to work in the Colombian senate, so has some good experience here! We talk about Colombian political parties, politicians, the political system, and key voting issues.

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Advanced 14: La Leyenda del Dorado

We recently went to an Exhibition at the British Museum in London called “Beyond El Dorado: Power and Gold in Ancient Colombia”. We discuss Colombia’s indigenous roots, their production and use of Gold, and the legend of El Dorado in this podcast, as well as the influence of the Spanish.

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Advanced 15: Conducir

We talk about driving – the differences between driving in Colombia and England (can’t be that many…!), what’s required to get a driving licence, and our dreams of a road-trip around Colombia in a jeep!

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Advanced 16: Clarissa

Meet Clarissa, from Venezuela. Clarissa talks to us about her time in London, and about the current situation in Venezuela. We should say that, while Clarissa is certainly passionate in her views, we have no way of verifying much of what she has said… All the same, enjoy, and keep up if you can!

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Advanced 17: Colombia’s big weekend

Colombia just had a big weekend, with the co-incidence of its first world cup game and the second round of the general elections! Update – Colombia won both that game and the following, unfortunately England crashed out after its first two games…

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Advanced 18: Spanish in the USA

The majority of visitors to Spanish Obsessed come from the USA. We talk about the rise of Spanish in the States! However, we don’t have any first hand experience of this, so we would love to hear from our American visitors’ (or anyone else with experience in this!) opinions on the rise of Spanish in the land of opportunity!

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Advanced 19: El viaje (part 1)

After nearly three years, Lis returned to Colombia to see her family. She tells us about the surprises she had lined up for them, as well as her impressions of her home country after being away for so long.

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Advanced 21: Mariana La Mexicana

We take a break in our trip to Colombia to bring you a guest podcast, with our friend Mariana, from Puerto de Veracruz, Mexico. Mariana talks with Rob about some of the stereotypes commonly held about Mexico, and how close they are to the truth.

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Advanced 23: Vanessa de Argentina

We welcome another friend to Spanish Obsessed. Meet Vanessa, who’s come to London from Argentina. She talks with Rob about her beloved country, and how she’s getting on in her new life in England!

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Advanced 24: Nuria de España

Meet Nuria, from Alicante, Spain. Believe it or not, despite being called “Spanish Obsessed”, Nuria is the first Spanish person we’ve actually interviewed on the site! She talks to Rob about moving from Spain, and what she’s up to in London.

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Advanced 25: Javi de España

Meet Javi, from Valladolid in Spain. He works near London as a Spanish teacher, and in this podcast he chats with Lis about teaching in the UK, how he finds English school children, and whether he wants to go back to Spain.

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Advanced 27: News of a Kidnapping

We recently had the opportunity to talk with Gilberto Torres, who was kidnapped by Colombian paramilitaries and held captive for 42 days several years ago. Gilberto was a Trade Union leader, and was kidnapped for organising strikes and getting in the way of some big business interests. He’s taking BP to court in London for events surrounding his kidnapping, and in this podcast he tells his story.

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Advanced 28: Job interviews

How important is the interview process for finding a job? Lis and Rob discuss their experiences in interviews in both English and Spanish, and how difficult the process can be.

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Advanced 31: La Gestión Urbana

Rob talks with Lis’ sister, Judith. Judith recently completed her Masters in La Gestión Urbana (Urban Management), and discusses the current global migration to cities, amongst other topics. Here’s what we cover:

  • Judith’s earliest memories of Lis
  • The global city migration
  • Gentrification around the world
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