Welcome back to Spanish Obsessed conversations. These are short conversations between myself Rob, from England and my partner Lis, who is Colombian. They're aimed at Spanish learners specifically to help you boost your Spanish comprehension through hopefully interesting and engaging content in Spanish aimed specifically at learners. You can head to SpanishObsessed.com look for conversations at the top and you'll see all of these podcasts and conversations appear alongside notes and transcriptions which are available for purchase. However, we do also have a free gift for you. That's a Spanish fluency phrase book which is over 90 handpicked phrases designed to give you a grammatical and conversational tool through the Spanish language and of course all of these phrases are extremely functional and very useful for you to learn. So that's free for you to download if you had to SpanishObsessed.com just from the homepage. In this episode Lis and I discussed a very controversial figure in Colombia recent history which is the former president Álvaro Uribe. Álvaro Uribe was widely seen as the Savior of Colombia, taking Colombia from some of the darkest days in the 80' and 90' and effectively declaring war on armed groups such as the FARC and bringing the country lasting peace or so the story went until stories and allegations surface about particular acts and methods of Uribe. So let's get on with the episode.

Hi Lis. How are you?

Hi Rob. I'm doing great. And you?

Yes, fine, thank you. You put up a lot of resistance today to this topic I proposed, but I think it's a topic that could be interesting because we're going to talk about a figure in Colombia who is very divisive.

Very divisive?

It's very divisive. Isn't that how you say it?

Currency no.

Controversial.